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Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 00:48:00 - [1] WTB PVP in 2005 If you don't know what I am talking about then you have not been there... and you fail proby nooblet. The bigger the ship the stupider the pilot. Oh, and closed for lack of content.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 01:32:00 - [2] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Dev Interviews: "Nah I mainly play WoW, getting the job here was the first I heard of Eve" Actually... That explains a hell of allot lol
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 11:30:00 - [3] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 11:31:52 Originally by: Hello Overthere I beg to differ... PvP is being born anew. Making this thread was worth it, if for no other reason then to have generated the comment above. Made me lul IRL...that is like, sig worthy. Just wow... LOL I can't tell you how many old friends I have seen leave eve, come back and say "WTF when did PVP become such a *** fest" But I guess many of those ***'s post here on the forums yea?
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 12:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 12:18:51 yea that one filled with chicken**** forum alts Also WTB forums before everyone wanted to be a goonswarmtroll. A little creativity is nice every now and again... just saying.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 12:29:00 - [5] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 12:29:05 Well sir this would be forum PVP And I tell my recruits that PVP in EVE has taken a downward spiral in the past two years in the first week. That is why we only train to do fleet worked with stupid amounts of logistics. That is what EVE is now. It has turned into WOW.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 13:10:00 - [6] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 13:11:08 Originally by: Alexandra Delarge Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 12:29:05 That is why we only train to do fleet worked with stupid amounts of logistics. That is what EVE is now. It has turned into WOW. You chose that playstyle. Suck it up Mr 220 kills since 03. At least I am posting on my main logi/command toon where as your posting with an alt that has 0 kills and one loss (also this character was only born in 08) So who is your main BTW? Oh that's right, your scared of something in game.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 13:15:00 - [7] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 13:15:02 Originally by: Camron Champagne It seems to me that people only complain about blobs when their blob loses to another blob. Griefers wailing about people getting smart to their tricks and cutting them off at the start is evolutions mastery at work. eventually the griefers with any luck will simply be out classed. Where as i'd say blobs out blobbing blobs is pretty crappy gameplay, and griefing/scam PVP is pretty weak too.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 13:30:00 - [8] Classic 0.0 carebear argument, but thx for bringing this into the discussion What you mean to say is "man's natural human tendency to herd like mindless cattle" and follow one or two alpha dogs who will do all the thinking for them.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 14:13:00 - [9] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 14:14:03 Originally by: Camron Champagne Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Classic 0.0 carebear argument, but thx for bringing this into the discussion What you mean to say is "man's natural human tendency to herd like mindless cattle" and follow one or two alpha dogs who will do all the thinking for them. Decry it of you like but it works. It also works repeatedly in multiple situations and circumstances. The fact that so many people such as yourself lament social leveraged fleets and en mass defense/offence is a testament to it's proficiency. That is not to say that there is not some way to use the nature of socially leveraged fleets to destroy/disassemble them it's just that no one has figured one out yet. What you are using to stroke your internet "Brain-Epeen" is nothing more then ****ty one-dimensional programing. But by all means keep right on, the truth is half of the forum dwellers think the same way you do. Creativity is not nearly as commonplace as mindless herds of sheep.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 15:09:00 - [10] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 15:09:31 Camron Champagne, just FYI, assumption that you know what other people want and/or are thinking is the most classic failing of people who think they are "smarter then average" Thank you for proving the stereotype once more

Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 15:25:00 - [11] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 15:26:41 Originally by: Cipher Jones ITT people who never read the Art of War complain about the tactics described therein. Quoting yet another mmo gamer thinking the "Art of War" is something that they can possibly understand because they read a poorly translated English version that they bought off of Ebay. Most likely he did so only once and quite possibly bridged through the dull parts, and now thinks he can apply the art of "real war" to a video game. I laugh at you forum warrior.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 15:33:00 - [12] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 15:33:36 Ummm... I don't see how that is a retort, but if if makes you feel better more power to ya. *Have fun AFK'ing in a massive multiplayer video game while your stuck waiting to for something fun to happen.* What you just said, is massive part of the issue as well.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 19:47:00 - [13] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 19:56:10 Originally by: NinjaSpud Edited by: NinjaSpud on 04/05/2011 17:39:26 Originally by: Eternum Praetorian WTB PVP in 2005 If you don't know what I am talking about then you have not been there... and you fail proby nooblet. The bigger the ship the stupider the pilot. Oh, and closed for lack of content. ya know what irks me? You might have a point, and maybe even an idea on how to get it fixed... But instead, this is what I understood from your post: "I'm an old eve player, and even though I could contribute something useful, instead I'll just sit in my rocking chair on my front porch and ***** about how good life was back in my prime. Everyone sucks but me" Today's word of the day is narcissism. You old farts make me laugh, gimme another cliche, I wanna poke more fun at you! Nothing can be typed here on this forum and be accepted well. It is another thing that has... Wait whats the word? Hmmm... Oh yes, "Evolved" These forums have "evolved into" something so much better then the old EVE forums where people were helpful and excited about the game they were playing. Yes, i am sure of it now, evolution must have been the word that I was looking for!! LMFAO
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 20:42:00 - [14] Originally by: Camron Champagne Nothing can be typed here on this forum and be accepted well. It is another thing that has... Wait whats the word? Hmmm... Oh yes, "Evolved" These forums have "evolved into" something so much better then the old EVE forums where people were helpful and excited about the game they were playing. Yes, i am sure of it now, evolution must have been the word that I was looking for!! LMFAO Your correct on that. You can't just type something in here and then demand that it be accepted simply because you said it. A long time in Eve does not entitle you to being above disagreement or debate. you have yet to say anything other then you liked PvP in 2005 and then called people names. So no that is rejected as it is typed here. Now now... The troll fest is "evolution"
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.04 21:22:00 - [15] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 04/05/2011 21:23:33 Originally by: Officer Icecream Truck Originally by: Eternum Praetorian WTB PVP in 2005 If you don't know what I am talking about then you have not been there... and you fail proby nooblet. The bigger the ship the stupider the pilot. Oh, and closed for lack of content. Oh look, the mighty "CAREBEARS INTO KILLERS," himself has come around once again to bemoan the fact his bc gang got skull-fukt. Cue the tiny violins, the game is over guys. Is that slogan really becoming that well known? LOL Or are you just an alt of someone I kicked from channel because you couldn't adhere to coms discipline if your life depended on it? And last I checked Drake armies are not so bad in the grand scheme of things. I have come to bemoan the "WOWifying" of the game we once loved because it was not WOW.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.05 02:42:00 - [16] Mighty Dread, you said it better then I ever could have. Amen brother That hope is why I keep my account active. If not for that, I would have ditched eve long ago.
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.05 11:44:00 - [17] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 05/05/2011 11:46:50 Originally by: NeoShocker Pvp dying? I don't think so. That looks a like a gate camp where you engage one small gang (who had no logistical support), and then shortly their after (or before) multiple, stupid, completely unrelated targets crossed the HED gate one at a time. It only looks like one killmail because of the way that aggression mechanics generate killmails, and yes it is a nice haul for the night. However, we will also not see any "fraps" of this epic l33t sauce PVP battle because it is not any different then the Privateers camping jita 4-4. It is nice when lone targets cross into a bubble for you and your 6,000 KM/sec instalockers can tag them one by one isn't it? That's right. I said it. It may impress noobs like Lea Sahara with a shadow for a picture but you can't pass off crap like that to the rest of us who have been around the block a few times. So meh...
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.05 12:11:00 - [18] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 05/05/2011 12:16:00 Originally by: Misanth Originally by: Eternum Praetorian WTB PVP in 2005 If you don't know what I am talking about then you have not been there... and you fail proby nooblet. The bigger the ship the stupider the pilot. Oh, and closed for lack of content. Pears > Apples If you don't agree with me you're a noob And I counter your quote with a requote of my own Originally by: Constantinus Maximus I got a subscription to E-ON last year. Was just pure comedy. Battle Reports: Month after month of "so-and-so was winning, node crashed, other side holds the field" Dev Interviews: "Nah I mainly play WoW, getting the job here was the first I heard of Eve" Was funny seeing it on glossy pages. The current state of EVE in a nutshell. Edit: Do you know why the PVP tournaments have rules THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE NORMAL GAMEPLAY? It is because it would be ****ing boring. Think about it? Why do they have to change the rules of the game to make it a worth while tournament of Fleets where you can bring any combination of ships that you want to bring? Homer says food for thought
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.05 12:40:00 - [19] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 05/05/2011 12:40:03 Originally by: Misanth Originally by: Tarasina Edited by: Tarasina on 05/05/2011 12:34:59 Edited by: Tarasina on 05/05/2011 12:34:17 Edited by: Tarasina on 05/05/2011 12:33:45 Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Do you know why the PVP tournaments have rules THAT ARE So DIFFERENT FROM THE NORMAL GAMEPLAY? It is because it would be ****ing nonfunctional and boring if they didn't. Think about it? Why do they have to change the rules of the game to make it a worth while tournament of Fleets where you can bring any combination of ships that you want to bring? Homer says food for thought And it is BS and smaller ships only. If you risk losing something noteworthy, you will bring everything you can and everything you can has become supercaps and titans. When I started Eve I had a small notion of me ending up in nullsec, being in fleetbattles. But when it is 700 vs 700 alpha fleets, I matter as much as a grain of sand in a desert. Doesn't matter if I am there or not, so I chose to not be there. Edit: spelling You're also trying too hard. His alt? You are also trying to hard Misanth. Got anything better to say?
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.05 12:50:00 - [20] Originally by: Misanth Originally by: Eternum Praetorian You are also trying to hard Misanth. Got anything better to say? Sure. You got anything but stupid trolling to post? I'd love to discuss 2005-PvP with you, but no real point talking with someone who's just in to argue, compares apples with pears, and is not even trying to cover it like any semi-decent troll would. Oh ****, I guess I just fell for it. Either that or I'm just bored.. Just your simple Simon opinion, as you clearly are not addressing anything that i have expressed. Go back and read it again.

Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.05.05 21:59:00 - [21] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 05/05/2011 21:59:18 Originally by: Misanth Originally by: Tarasina Originally by: Misanth You're also trying too hard. His alt? Not his alt, just my opinion. You can turn a blind eye to the issue but it wont go away. Think about it. How interesting would the Alliance Tournament be with supercaps on the field? Think about it. How would the Alliance Tournament be without borders, with no rules on what modules you can fit, no gang size limits, and we could discuss the viability of the fittings used there as well since it almost always lacks proper tackle. ..I thought my pear > apple would be obvious enough, but I guess it might help to spell it out. Comparing apples and oranges FTL. People like you really need to be fed in a highchair with a very tiny spoon don't they?

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